Chill with Sweaty AF

Joey and Lucy met at a wellness and longevity studio in London. When they discovered their shared passion for health optimisation they started a podcast, recording each episode from the Infrared Sauna, and so ‘Sweaty AF’ was born. With an infectious combination of banter and scientific chat, the podcast following exploded with demand for more info on the products, discoveries, and trends they shared in each episode. Now an online shop with sections devoted to health and wellbeing advice, the duo are unstoppable.

Hosts and biohackers, Joey and Lucy sit down and talk about cold water immersion, reflect on the last 9 episodes. They also discuss the benefits of cold water immersion and share some amazing stories.

Fenwick Ridley is a Team GB Ice Swimmer, entrepreneur, and master of the cold. His journey began after a 10km swim when his coach urged him to take it to open water. Hooked instantly, he embraced the icy lakes and rivers, pushing through the pain until his body adapted.

For Fenwick, the cold is more than just physical—it’s a mental reset. Dealing with anxiety and ADHD, he finds clarity in cold water, where each dip feels like walking into a new room. Now, through H2O Trails, he shares the power of wild swimming with others, thriving in the cold and helping others do the same.

Jamie Clements, the breathwork guru who turned anxiety and panic attacks into a journey of self-mastery. From battling the chaos of his early twenties to discovering the transformative power of breath, Jamie’s story is a testament to resilience and mental fortitude.

Breathwork didn’t just help him survive the toughest moments—it became the foundation of his wellness practice and sparked the creation of The Breath Space. Whether you're just starting out or have been practicing for years, this episode is packed with insights and practical tips to help you harness your breath for a healthier mind and body.

Meet Brian and Laura from Red Light Rising, a company focused on helping you optimise your health. Through Brian’s own personal health journey, he discovered Red Light Therapy.Bryan’s journey began with his own struggles - from post-concussion symptoms to chronic joint pain. Red light therapy was the turning point, and now, it’s his mission to share this transformative solution. Bryan and Laura join the Sweaty AF girls to discuss how they balance Red Light with Cold Water therapy, and how the world of biohacking has endless possibilities.Your well-being is not just about managing symptoms. It’s about rediscovering the joy in our daily lives, feeling our best, and embracing each day with renewed energy.

Pete Cooper, co-founder of the revolutionary running app, Coopah turned to the cold in depths of a personal loss. In the darkness of grief and depression, he also found solace and strength in pounding the streets, running for miles and miles at a time. His experience led to the creation of Coopah, a virtual run coach app designed to make running accessible and inclusive for all, breaking down barriers that once made the sport feel elitist and unattainable.

In this heartfelt conversation, Pete opens up about the pivotal role cold water therapy has played in his recovery, both mentally and physically. From soothing injuries to providing a refreshing boost of energy, Pete shares how the cold has become an essential part of his wellness routine. Join us as Pete discusses his transformative journey, the inception of Coopah, and how combining running with cold water immersion has helped him and countless others find community, healing, and purpose.

Mike and Caroline are the founders of BeGrounded, a company focused on spreading the word about Earthing. Through their own personal health journeys, they have greatly benefited from regular Earthing.

In 2018, Mike was hospitalised with pneumonia and was told it could take up to six months to fully recover. He then stumbled across an article about grounding and Earthing that really resonated with him. After reading the article, he began to incorporate Earthing into his daily life and managed to speed up his recovery process by five months.

Caroline also discovered Earthing after being diagnosed with a rare nerve injury in her pelvis. Doctors told her that the pain in her nerve might never go away. In desperation, she tried everything and found that Earthing was the miraculous cure she was looking for. Over time, it healed the damaged nerve ending, and she now has zero pain.

Today, cold water plays an important role in their lives through their religious early morning dips at 6:45 AM. Mike and Caroline discuss how the cold sends them into the day with incredible energy and an openness to the possibilities and opportunities it may hold.

When Laura jumped into the Norwegian Sea, her in-laws thought she was crazy. But only she knew how the cold made her feel and it was worth every cubic inch of discomfort.

Laura Graversen is the owner of The Hygge Corner, a haven of relaxation and wellness, based in the tranquillity of the Norfolk countryside. Her curiosity about the cold began when a client suggested she listen to the Huberman Lab Podcast when he dives into the depths of cold water immersion and the effects on the body. She got curious and started with cold showers. While visiting annual the Health Optimisation Summit, she discovered Brass Monkey and took the plunge when our Barrels hit the market. From that point, cold water immersion became a feature of her retreat, hosting Wim Hof-trained coaches to lead sessions with her clients using breathwork and the cold to offer a transformative experience.

Listen in as Laura talks about her clients and how the cold helps with arthritis and other inflammatory diseases, as well as transforming her own mood whenever she dips.

Natiska Tjarks trains people to live at a higher level. She unlocks self-belief and offers new ways of thinking to deliver life-changing results for the athletes she trains. As a personal performance coach, and neuro-linguistic programming (NLP) master, Natiska works with elite athletes to make small changes to their routines and lifestyle that deliver a huge impact on their performance.

From a young age, Natiska was encouraged to embrace the cold. Her parents were very open-minded, into yoga, and spiritual wellness, and whenever the opportunity arose to jump into cold rivers and lakes. She learned to view the cold as ‘just water’ and this set the foundation for her approach to the ice. In February 2024 she went on a Wim Hof course that only fuelled her understanding and belief in the power of the cold.

Today, Natiska uses the cold to help her clients with the mental side of their training she wanted to develop tools that will help bring a focus and alignment on a higher level to aid their physical development. Now, she uses the cold to change her athletes' state of mind, a vital aspect of NLP, especially when they’ve suffered defeats.

They feel refreshed and energised, elevating their consciousness to a positive state. Joey and Lucy explore her fascinating journey so far.

Annette Wilks is a Yoga Academy Certified Teacher specialising in yoga for sports, Hatha yoga, mindfulness and falling in love with life. 

When she was a little girl, one of her kidneys stopped working and had to be removed. As part of her aftercare, she was told the cold was dangerous for her. From that day, Annette’s mother protected her from the cold wrapping her up in layers, a habit she continued into adulthood. For years, the fear followed her.

When her son bought her a Wim Hof book as a Christmas gift that detailed a protocol to start your cold journey with cold showers, she decided it was time to confront the fear. Now she dips every day in the sea by her home in the south of France and takes cold showers regularly. 

Today, cold water plays an important role in her life, through swimming and watching the sunlight dance across the surface of the sea. Over a blend of Nootropics, she sits down with Joey and Lucy to discuss how the cold sends them into the day with incredible energy and an openness to the possibilities and opportunities it may hold. 

They also tackle the importance of intuition when it comes to the cold rather than subscribing to a set temperature or number of minutes and having compassion with yourself when your body tells you not to dip. 

Shez and Zain, founders of London Nootropics got the backing they needed after appearing on Dragon’s Den back in 2022. Staunch believers in the powers of aptogens, a group of plants and mushrooms that help the body’s response to stress, anxiety, fatigue and overall wellbeing, they had a vision to combine these ingredients with something delicious we enjoy every day; coffee. Since launch, their blends have helped people with ADHD, Menopause, long work shifts, achieving new personal bests, and reaching their life goals. So how does cold water immersion support their mission and how do they personally tackle the ice? Join us for an intoxicating blend of cold and coffee as Zain chats to Joey and Lucy about his deliberate cold exposure experiences, contrast therapy and remembering to breathe.